Thursday, October 11, 2007

Simon Lee

我在做一個project,有事請教Bullpoo.com的創辦人之一Simon Lee
他很樂意,但又猶疑:
「I don't have years of experience with entrepreneurship…」
(我冇幾廿年營商經驗噃…)

看見這回應,我忍不住笑了。
我說,沒關係,你們都沒有多年營商經驗,而我也沒有多年傳媒經驗(我入行一年八個月)。
所以我們都不是主流,不過稚兒玩泥沙,何須認真。

Simon兩歲就隨家人移民加拿大,是個FobBC ── Fresh off the boat Born Chinese(這個奇怪的字是卡夫卡教我的;他說他自己則是個CBFob──Canadian Born Fresh off the boat)。
所以,他不會中文,廣東話也講得很蹩腳,就像吳彥祖那樣(所以他說話時神情很可愛呀,嘻嘻)。
小時候,他隨家人回港省親,次次都不愉快,加倍令他討厭香港:

「我係鬼仔黎架嘛,我都唔識香港人D culture,佢地講野我又聽唔明。」
沒有見過人自稱「鬼仔」時,如此一臉不以為然。

九十年代中,Simon隨家人回流,並在國際學校(KGV/英皇佐治五世學校)繼續四年的高中課程。
回歸那年,Simon和家人回了加拿大一趟,返港途中,他看了一本Time Magazine的香港專題。
就在那一刻,他發現他已深深愛上這個地方,不想再走了。

「如果你看多倫多的歷史,那完全是平的、是一條直線,幾十年來都沒有風浪。

可是香港卻充滿故事──從二次世界大戰開始、淪淊日本人手上,到六七暴動、九七回歸…這裡滿是豐富的回憶。

這個城市很energetic,每分鐘都在變,不像多倫多。在彼邦,你十年後回去,一切依然紋風不動。 」
那本Time Magazine,他竟然還留著 。
真是個長情的人。

這個鬼仔還說,每次有多倫多的朋友來港,他最喜歡的節目是帶他們搭地鐵──「This is amazing!」──頻密的班次、乾淨的車廂、甚至八達通收費系統,都令他們這些「加燦」瞠目結舌。

「你知不知道,在多倫多,地方很大,去哪裡都要開車,一天起碼要花兩個小時在車上。但香港就不同了,我好喜歡搭地鐵…」他又開始了滔滔不絕。
我好像在看旅發局的宣傳節目。

Simon選擇回港創業,除因為香港是個國際金融中心,與Bullpoo.com這個財經社交網站的性質暗中契合外,他還覺得,香港比矽谷更多元化:

「在Silicon Valley,如果某產品或服務受歡迎,大家就會一窩蜂光做那一樣,很單調;香港卻更多姿多采…」
旅發局怎麼不聘請他當大使?

他們的財經社交網站Bullpoo.com雖然只是模擬投資(登記者每人都有$1M資產進行模擬股票買賣),可是製作認真──他們為此專門向NYSE購買股票報價,其價值不菲,是Bullpoo營運的最大支出;目前僅供買賣美股,明年計劃進軍港股,還有東京和倫敦股市。

Leon Ho也是他們的用家:「不少人用來表現自己的眼光,並向別人炫耀自己的投資組合如何了得,還可以撰寫和分享自己的分析。」Bullpoo已孕育了不少網上炒股明星。

若在香港登陸時,能得到像青姐那樣的知名投資專家青睞,想必會引起一陣騷動。
不論你「一注獨贏買xx」抑或「一注獨贏沽xx」,所有投資組合都讓追隨者一目瞭然,誰也騙不了誰。

午飯吃到快四點,話題早扯遠,他倆慫恿我把所有參與這個project的朋友約在一起,彼此好好聊聊天(其實不用我搓合,他們都認識)。
我說這意念也不錯,最好找攝影師來拍攝,讓你們把我群星措照。
Leon說,拍照也可以,但不要叫我們擺甫士。
我說,為什麼不?最好找幾本雜誌,照辦煮碗。
Leon說,那好吧,只要不是Manpower那一類雜誌就好。
我問:Manpower?
Leon說,是呀,就是那本讓男模穿上消防制服之類的,扭著身子擺甫士那本。
我答,哦,就是那些專供女士們欣賞的雜誌嗎。
Leon循循善誘彷彿在教小孩子道:也有男人會看的。

23 comments:

Chan Tai Man said...

相當好奇,點解咁多女性會特別鍾情 [ 消防員 ] 呢? 點解?

DC said...

Recently I realize a lot of people came back to HK from Toronto and they achieved great success in HK - especially in financial sector.

The interesting part is that most of these people are not "local" HK people - they are either CBC or "FOB"BC, who never experience the energetic, rapid-changing, "always-awake" nature of a city before.

Typical FOB「加燦」like me (those immigrate in the mid-90s), on the other hand, stayed here and enjoy the flat-line-alike (aka quiet) living style here lol.

leona said...

Tai Man:
我不鍾情消防員,答你唔到:)

DC:
Haven't you ever considered coming back for an "energetic, rapid-changing, 'always-awake'" life style?
:)

暗黑的卡夫卡 said...

L:
cbc

fob

My new "term" is just describing the two different kind:

FobBC - Not born in Canada but basically a CBC.

CBFob - Born in Canada but basically a Fob.

Damn I am so clear about the terms, I can teach Immigrants 101 haha!

DC:
Yeah...did u?

LoL!

Chan Tai Man:
「消防員」擁有最最男性的特質(i.e., 現金香港社會大部份工作都不需要的體能﹐求生本領﹐男人味)

而「消防員」比「警察」好﹐是因為不會有需要動用武力傷人的機會。

只要從男性角度看我們的「空姐」﹐便會明白...

Chan Tai Man said...

卡夫卡:

oh, thanks. 我正想寫一篇女性崇拜消防員的文章。 你說的提醒了我 :)

leona said...

卡夫卡:
你如此喜歡玩acronyms,不如猜猜這是什麼:
PPOTKS
提示:來自一封老闆給祕書的電郵
(我想了幾秒就想到了,嘻嘻)

關於女性對消防員的fantasy,好一個"從男性角度看我們的空姐".
可是我本人對肌肉格外發達的男人卻有偏見,總覺得他們是無腦的....
當然,我也不是光喜歡弱不禁風的書生型,但體格健康,外型陽光就好了,犯不著把自己弄成筋肉人啊!

暗黑的卡夫卡 said...

Thats a very hard one to me and thanks for the tip!

"Please pass it over, thanks"...wheres the "it"? >.<

btw, 我本人對身材過份突出的女人卻有偏見,總覺得她們是無腦的....=P

leona said...

卡夫卡:

Fresh off the Boat - where's the "the" then?

關於偏見 - Hey, 咱一人讓一步,莫糾纏於這個不值得糾纏的話題好了。
:)

暗黑的卡夫卡 said...

LoL OK!

癲狗 said...

加燦, 超鐘意呢個詞, 成日用嚟串我表姐XD 因為有d cbc真係燦得好緊要

我係fob, 以我經驗就認為cbc有兩種, 一種超勁, 一種超廢, 中間好少

因為toronto高中同大學係幾好的, 如果parents係好傳統嗰類逼個細路讀, 係制度嘅幫助之下成材係幾容易的, 此為超勁 (by my def they are cbfobs)

如果parents放任, 個細路日日留連fmp然後去讀ryerson, 咁就係toronto搵份工都有難度啦, 此為超廢 (general cbcs and fobbcs)

癲狗 said...

fob = fresh of boat, 好似冇the... (雖然有冇其實冇關係)

and... 係咪真係咁多人鐘意空姐呀 = ="
講嚟開玩笑就會話自己鐘意嘅...

lasallejai said...

I am a CRC(Canadian Raised Chinese)and have been in Toronto for exactly 20 years, but recently been back to Hong Kong two years in a row, in 2003 and 2004. Comparing Hong Kong To Toronto is like comparing an pineapple to a grapefruit. How silly! Hong Kong is such a small city so everything is closely knitted together. Just the metropolitan area of Toronto is already about 5.7 times the size of Hong Kong, not to mention the Greater Toronto Area combined could be 17 to 27 times bigger. It is extremely difficult to have a full scale transit system to cover such a vast mass of land. Secondly, I guess Simon has not really explored the history of Toronto at all, because from what I have learnt and known the history of Toronto is not a flatliner at all. If you want to see colours, then you will have to go back to about 200 to 250 years when the French Army settled here first, and then got kicked out by the British Army, then the British colony had to fight against the Yankees(Americans) constantly for many many years to keep Toronto from becoming part of the America. I can go on and on. I am sure there were historical significances in the past, but just that they did not happen in the recent century for any one of us still living to have experienced. That is all. I am sure if Simon was born in 1777 and came to Toronto he would be intrigued by the things happening around here until the day he passed. Changes in Toronto maybe subtle when compared to Hong Kong in the last 20 years, but hey, not every one prefers drastic and dramatical changes in life and society. That is why Toronto is still rated one of the best living places on earth for her stability, freedom, crime rate and climate. Hong Kong is a very nice place for fun and visit, but I would never want to live there for the sake of my growing family.

DC said...

Leona:
Yes, I've been considering it all the time..my decisions are kept changing after I came back from Hong Kong couple weeks ago.

I agree with lasallejai - that's one of the main reasons that makes me hesistated to decide whether I should go back to HK or not - my friends work from 9 - 4:30 AM (yes, AM) for the past month or so; in average 10 p.m. is the earliest time when they can get themselves out of the office in Central - pretty much your life in HK is work, work and work - and then you realize you missed a lot of things. My friends in HK are so surprised that I know more HK stuff than them while they are living in HK.

Over here, I am really flexible and enjoying the life here(I will let you know later on how flexible my office is :P), I can feel that I have a "life" here.

On the otherhand, CK (ManInCentral) is visiting Canada I think and his more recent entry speaks out the other side of my mind - being a 30-year-old guy, it's too early to stay in the comfort zone and keep yourself in a calm/quiet state like this - especially for a FOB like me who got all the friends went back to HK in the last couple years, I would really tempted to try and see how far I can go if I am going to back HK. This dilemma has been killing me for the last year or so - especially the economy is growing so strong in HK and China. It's just 2 different life style, there is no definite right or wrong but which one you would prefer to have it now, and 5-10 years from now.

ManInCentral blog entry:
http://manincentral.blogspot.com/2007/10/blog-post_16.html

lasallejai said...

Hello DC,

I am a bit older than you so I went through what you are going through now in the 90's when most of my friends and buddies left Toronto for Hong Kong to further their endeavours. You do not know how lonely I felt for a couple of years when 7 of my closest chums decided to give it a try in Hong Kong. Well, as you say, there is no right or wrong decision, but you have to know what you are looking for in life. Your like's and don't like's now are certainly, utterly different from what they will be 10 years from now due to the human life cycle. I do not consider myself a boring guy, because my wife and I both like the limelight lifestyle whether we are in Hong Kong or Toronto, but now with a young toddler at home I do not think it matters any more. In light of the environment, quality of life, space and education system we do prefer to raise our son here than in Hong Kong. My wife actually grew up and worked in Hong Kong for about 10 years so she knows better than I. Looking back, I do think I have made a better decision staying behind, because many of my friends who went back to Hong Kong have already returned to Canada for the sake of their growing families. Money is important, no doubt, but not everything can be bought by monetary means.

路人癸 said...

我很同意lasallejai對多倫多歷史的看法。年輕而無根的fob們應多了解他們所住城市的背景再論斷孰優孰劣。沒有世界視野,沒有不偏不倚的歷史觀,不論是加拿大人美國人,抑或是香港人大陸人,都可以很燦。

另外,Leona的文章裡有兩句:「我好像在看旅發局的宣傳節目。」「旅發局怎麼不聘請他當大使?」這些句子放在年青人興奮的「香港乜都好語錄」後,似乎有點諷刺揶揄的含意。是不是我太cynical了?

Disclaimer: 我自己也是fob,對多倫多和香港都同樣理性地欣賞和熱愛。

leona said...

Hi lasallejai / DC:
Canada / Torono is definitely a nicer place to live and to raise children and I have no objection to it.

One of my best friends, my roomate, have been living in Calgary with her husband for about a year and they have decided not to come back. Though I miss them a lot I can totally understand.

Lasallejai, I think you don't have to take Simon's remarks too seriously. Afterall it's a casual talk among us friends and it's super normal he spoke whatever he thought straight from the gut!

You are right. It's not fair to compare pineapple to a grapefruit. But I don't think Simon meant to do so. You know there's a Chinese Proverb - 甲之熊掌,乙之砒霜(or is it a western proverb instead?). And this is exactly the case.

DC, I understand to many people, our living style is too "unsustainable". But I'm sure there are jobs that are less demanding; like mine :)

路人癸:
不會啦,我只是用誇張手法表達而已,怎麼會想諷刺他?
他和你一樣是Fob,很會開玩笑的!
欸,你仍在楓葉國嗎?

lasallejai said...

Hello Leona,

Calgary is a bit too cold for me in the winter time, and their winter is quite long comparing to Toronto's. Having said that, Calgary and Edmonton are the two booming cities in Canada these days with hundreds of thousands of people moving there each year due to their high pay job offereings. Some are also enchanted by the undeveloped wilderness in the province of Alberta too. Who does not know Japser and Banff aside from the Rockies?

No, not at all, for I know where Simon is coming from, but I also suspects he has not really got to know the place where he grew up in. I have been in Canada, on and off, for 25 years and I am still learning the profound history of Canada---now I am on Quebec City. Comparing to China and most of the European countries Canada and USA are just two infants, but still, I would like to learn how Canada has become the Canada today dating back to about 400 years ago.

That is a Chinese idoim, and I know exactly what it infers. Nonetheless, freedom of speech is one thing, but comments and comparisons without pertinent facts is another. I just wanted to add my two cents so that for those who have never been to Toronto or Hong Kong, who read your blog, would have a more objective picture in their minds. The avergae joe is gullible and can be easily misled! : )


Alexander

DC said...

I guess the idoim is "One's candy is other's poison" or stuff like that :)

Leona - your job is not demanding (which I doubted it :P) but I don't have your skill set :P Your job sounds really fun actually when I read your blog..meet a lot of people and talk to people from different background - personally I like this type of work but in reality - it's all about "guts" :)

I bet Kafka is going to have a long chat with you later about this :) His computer is busted so let's see if he will come online sometime soon.

Leona said...

Hi Alexander,
Don't worry about people would have bias towards Canada merely by reading this blog. I think it's not that easy to change people's perception. Otherwise Ip Lau and Ånson Chan wouldn't spend so much time on the street :)

BTW, my friend obtained a PhD scholarship from a University at Calgary. She's not a gold digger, hohoho.

DC:
I just haven't shared the boring part of my job to you, my friend.
There's another side of my job which I don't think any reader would be interested in.

No wonder Kafka's not online these days. I miss him!

路人癸 said...

Leona: 對,我在加拿大工作,每一兩年回港探親。

為免妳有所誤會,fob一詞其實有兩個意思。廣義的fob解「(剛抵逹的)第一代移民」,為中性詞;我自稱為fob是取此義。

狹義的fob暗含貶意,解「文化自閉的第一或N代移民」;他們遷到美加澳等地許多年,但依然不屑或不能融入當地社會,甚至連英語也不會說。引申開去,fob,fobby或者fobbish又可以指「喜愛亞洲次文化(或娛樂)的移民後代」,亦即樓上所說的CBfob(我在加拿大未曾聽過這個縮寫,可能是後生一輩新造的字)。他們不曉讀寫中文,對亞洲史地或國際時事沒有多大了解,但會聽陳奕迅楊千嬅,會唱K打日本遊戲機。

Fob這一個標籤有太多重含義,所以許多人對被稱為fob會反感。lasallejai所用的Canadian raised Chinese(又或者Chinese born Canadian,又或者乾脆Chinese Canadian)就沒有歧視的成份了。

leona said...

路人癸:
真沒想到這幾個字還有這麼多學問在其中.
以前我只會用Canadian Chinese 或 Chinese Canadian (不知此中是否又有區別),圖它方便簡單.
現學了這許多字後,繞一個圈,看來還是此字最合適
:)
有趣

lasallejai said...

Leona:

To me, there is a difference between "Canadian Chinese" and "Chinese Canadian". If a person was born in Canada but his or her root(race) of origin is China, then he or she would be classified as a Canadian Chinese. On the other hand, if a Chinese person who was born outside Canada, but later on moves to Canada and becomes a citizen, then he or she would be considered a Chinese Canadian, and I am precisely one! : )

tofusimon said...

lasallejai,

I was actually raised in Canada (since 2yrs of age), and traveled all over. I can say that I am *very* Canadian - played hockey when I grew up, love camping, fishing, roller blading, biking, I have friends that are into Curling, and am a major, major Leaf fan. I've been all over the country, from Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, to Ottawa, Quebec, Montreal.

I realize that people have widely varying opinions of HK. I too have many friends who grew up in Canada and came back - they either love it or hate it, with very little in between.

Please don't get me wrong, I *love* Canada and was not criticizing it at all, only pointing out the drastic differences of lifestyle and culture between the two places. HK being small is precisely one of the things I was pointing out as a major difference.

I've studied Canada's history since grade school, and I still think it's not very exciting! The border skirmishes that happened during colonial times 200-250 years ago is a little hard to identify with. I was merely talking about how quickly things change in HK as compared to Toronto in modern times. You have to admit, if you look at the past 3 generations, or 100 years, Toronto is pretty "straight lined" isn't it?

The main reason I brought up those points was because I feel HK to be a much more dynamic and convenient environment to start a business such as mine - things just happen much quicker here.

Simon